13 and 31....(odd flip flop of numbers there)
CHG
..when you got baptised, and when you discovered the truth about the truth?.
me: 20 and 27.
13 and 31....(odd flip flop of numbers there)
CHG
i have been very busy lately but i had to stop for a few and write this.. it is beyond me why the wts has the need to not only lie but to keep making stuff up as they go along.
the latest being an experience related to the jws at my local hall (a friend of mine who still goes told me).
was visiting this week and related the following account:.
Interesting topic....thank you for setting the record straight, living in MI I remember also hearing those "encouraging experiences"- and having no idea what conditions were like in GZ had no way to discredit their story...although I thought it sounded hokey at the time
CHG
i need an advice.... has been 2 months since i went to a meeting and or field service, i received a call from an elder saying that he wants my monthly report , i dont know what to do coz he is been calling me for 4 days now i dont want to answer the phone, but at the same time i feel like just sending the report.
the question is, should i fade slowly or just stop ?
my family isnt jw only my mom is inactive..
There's nothing wrong in ignoring....you do not have to talk to anyone that you do not want to- especially if there are no strings attached (JW family)
CHG
ive recently decided not to be a witness anymore and at the age of 28 was still so afraid to tell my parents.
the truth is their life and knew i would hurt them.
ive had such a battle with the elders and because my dad is an elder its even worse.
Welcome,
I also know exactly how you feel- I have been out for 2 years now (seems unbelievable to me)... I remember two years ago the thought of telling my parents and family that I wanted to leave would give me a panic attack. I couldn't eat, couldn't sleep, I was so unhappy inside the organization that I prayed to Jeh everyday to die. I knew that was wrong and finally I got to a point where I could not go on, something had to happen, I had to get out.
everyone has given the advise that I would give myself...when I first came to this forum I was still reeling from my decision to leave....I made a plan, I wrote my mom a letter explaining that I had to leave- I told the elders...they tried to get me to write a letter to DA myself, I lied and told them that I still believed in the "truth"- that got me out of being DFd for apostasy, but I still did at the time held onto the belief that I would die at armageddon-
it took comming here and taking everyone's suggestions to read the books to really start deprogramming my guilt and fear-
it takes time, patience....you may not believe me now but the reality is that armageddon is not comming...You do have time to research and find the truth for yourself, you do have time to make your own life, you do have time to achieve happiness in this life
so please take some deep breaths and start reading, we are here to help you if you need to make a plan to fade
CHG
well this time last year i was waiting for my first semester at college to start.
i had no idea how i would do in my classes.
my first semester was a complete surprise for me because not only did i do it, but, i did it well ending up on the dean's list with a 3.57 gpa for the semester.
Woo hoo!!! Good job & I wish you the best for your sophmore year! Rest up these next couple weeks :) CHG
i have a relative who is now about 73 is a really cool, smart old guy a paul newman look alike who has led an interesting and successful life, traveled the world and raised a large family.
he was raised as a witness by his mother whose husband left the family when she became a witness.
many of his siblings and relatives have gone on to be circuit overseers, gilead grads and bethelites but he left the truth when he was in his teens.
Thank you exwhyzee for sharing his story, it was heartbreaking to read and try to put myself in his shoes...I cannot fully imagine exactly what he had to go through mentally...& he had to do it all on his own
he is a survivor and I agree he should write his story down someday
CHG
on friday morning i got a phone call from someone who was interested in buying a utility trailer i had for sale.
the man came over and looked at it and ended up buying it.
i invited him inside our home to fill out the paper work.
You must let us know if you & Reopened decide to try another church....I do not have the balls to walk into another church yet-
Like you, being a born-in I am very fearful of walking into another church...its not like now I think demons are hiding in the rafters or anything....but the thought makes me feel very uneasy.
Coffee Shop Guy goes to a nondenominational & has been very happy there for some time, it is true that many religious people are not pushy about their faith- if they are happy in their particular religious community they are happy to talk about it if you ask...but my experience attending a "christian university" tells me that most all christians believe that every individual is on their own journey...and they have to make their own decisions about God, faith, and church- the "world" is not judgemental, and most wish you peace and hope you find your own way on that path...
I hope you take your time, do your research, and do what is comfortable for you...you don't have to be in a hurry (its not like armageddon is coming soon)
I am also glad you are finding friends on the outside....I know that is hardest for me too
Thanks for the experience,
CHG
i am sitting here writing this posting as a way of venting for all the frustration that i have been building up over the years of slavery to this beast called the wbts... i was a born in, and was denied all the normal things in life, i always felt left out as a kid, and even as a young adult.
i was the only jw for most if not all of my school years, i was harrased, mocked, teased, and even pushed around, because i was taught to stand up for what i beleive in.
th problem was, i didnt beleive it, i always felt there was something not right about the org.
It is true that since we were "born-in" to JW craziness...we know the reasons behind why they shun us....we lived in inside the organization- hearing that shunning had to be done to show love-
we know that in their misguided minds, they think they are loving us...but when we leave the org knowing what will happen...it still hurts when family/friends treat us like we are dead-
I am going through the anger too- I am sorry this is happening to you...I chant with you "fu*k em all"
CHG
hello all jwn .
so glad to have that over with- it was surreal to walk in the kh after two years...it is just a building to me now (not "jehovah's house").
i must say that now i'm on the outside...what a boring sad building- the people were not joyful and friendly (just older and fatter than i remember)- i got the nervous stares and shaky "hi" when i looked at all of them and said hello.. my mom was sitting all by herself in the front row of the hall...i went and sat by her side.
Again thank you everyone for sympathizing with me and validating my feelings- now out of the control of WT doctrine we all must face death sometime...the death of those we love dearly and our own someday- I write my feelings for myself, and a part of me writes it for others who must face these things too
I will print these responces out and put them in my journal, it will be helpful to refer to them in the future
SBC- I am also sorry for your loss, I know relations with your family have been hard over the past year...I can relate and I also wish for you to have peace and time to grieve
CHG
i don't know if this strange phenomenon is unique to my family but it seems that those who have left the truth have little to no interest in reaching out to those family members who have also left the religion.. it seems topsy turvy to me.
surely, there would be common ground and mutual support for those leaving/have left but this does not seem to be the case.. does anyone else have this problem?.
Connecting with other exJW's I knew personally fills me with anxiety because I do not know (as LeavingWT put into categories) if I'm going to talk to the exJW who is mentally out like me...or an apologist who still believes in the "truth" and will rat me out to get back into good graces with their JW family (elders on a committee to reinstate).
I recently friended a exJW (DF'd for 10yrs or so) on facebook- she was from my old cong. but I thought it was okay since it looked like she "moved on" with her life-
A few months later now she is sending me messages that she is going back for family & will quit going to meetings once she is reinstated (she said she doesn't believe in the "truth", but is trying to prove to parents that forgiveness in JWland comes from men and not God)....now I am ready to sh*t my pants because she knows details about me-
I agree it is much easier to talk to exJW's that you have never met before & take it slowly on giving of personal information
CHG